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kootenay kid
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Re: Anyone still here?

Postby kootenay kid » Tue Aug 22, 2017 4:53 am

You took the words right out of my mouth, DJPrepper.
We were "evacuated" this spring when our river came through some culverits and pot 4 to 6 inches of water on the road. The three families with kids were the only ones to leave. The one family, with their grade 12 son were told to go to the reception centre, which they did. Now, we are in the Slocan Valley. These people had to go to the Golf Course in Balfour as there were events happening in Nelson, Castlegar and Trail.....big event no rooms available anywhere. The restaurant at the golf course was only open until about 4 pm as tthey couldn't get staff. That might have been a convenient excuse, we don't know for sure. The young grade 12 student didn't get to their room until well after the food place closed, so the family had to eat microwave stuff in their room, or drive the hour almost to Nelson to eat. Not hood when you are trying to review your books for final exams!
After the water had gone down and the road contractor put a 2 foot lift on the road, a ful week had gone by. Those people did a lot of driving for nothing. We were in no danger, at any time. That's why most of us stayed.
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Re: Anyone still here?

Postby DJPrepper » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:21 pm

Open question to all those that had to Evacuate in the past :

1. what worked well : (a) your personal preparation and (b) action by the Authorities

2. what did not work well : (a) + (b)

3. what would you change to your preparation and planning in the future

I have not had to evacuate before, so would really appreciate learning from the experience of those that have.
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Re: Anyone still here?

Postby scrounger » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:07 pm

Came across this article on evacuation. A bit light but quick read.

http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/why ... ailsignout

This link is a bit more in depth. Gives you an idea of what "should" be going on behind the scenes in BC during an evacuation.

http://www2.gov.bc.ca/assets/gov/public ... elines.pdf
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Odin Gray
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Re: Anyone still here?

Postby Odin Gray » Mon Aug 28, 2017 1:01 am

scrounger wrote:Question for the group.

If a property owner decides against evacuating when gov calls for it, then later has to be rescued when situation takes a turn for the worst. Should homeowner be liable for cost of rescue?



Seems logical, BUT....

The gov,t pays (at no cost to the victim) search and rescues costs for
A. Lost and unprepared metro-hikers (Google "NorthShore Search and Rescue");
2. Stunt boaters, balloonists, Guines Book of Record seekers, who send distress calls even out of Canadian waters;
3. General other stupid stuff that people do.

Why single out preppers and "garden-hose heroes" for liability of costs.

DJPrepper wrote:Open question to all those that had to Evacuate in the past :

1. what worked well : (a) your personal preparation and (b) action by the Authorities

2. what did not work well : (a) + (b)

3. what would you change to your preparation and planning in the future

I have not had to evacuate before, so would really appreciate learning from the experience of those that have.


My personal angst came from being prepared for evacuation on general terms but having left my property on a short trip hours before SHTF, had no preps, no choices, and military enforced road blocks preventing access to property.

The action by authorities can only be described as " over the top" : condescending, over-cautious, heavy handed.

An example:
Our fire WAS NOT the Williams Lake fire (officially the White Lake fire). We were the Wildwood fire. Yet after three weeks, both fire evacuation orders were lifted at the same moment: how did two distinctly different fire storms become safe at the same time (there was no rain event!). It is gov,t beaurocracy at its finest.

One of the big take away concepts that I have come to terms with is that you can't be prepared or with your preps all of the time and you still have to learn to enjoy life.
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Odin Gray
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Re: Anyone still here?

Postby Odin Gray » Mon Aug 28, 2017 8:36 pm

DJPrepper wrote:Open question to all those that had to Evacuate in the past :

1. what worked well : (a) your personal preparation and (b) action by the Authorities

2. what did not work well : (a) + (b)

3. what would you change to your preparation and planning in the future

I have not had to evacuate before, so would really appreciate learning from the experience of those that have.




Some of the key things to consider:

1. Once you leave your property you cannot return until some petty gov,t official assesses all liability issues and political considerations. Even if you know that your property and neighborhood is safe, you have NO discretion on returning.

At our property, the burned out lawn and grass was already greening up as we were required to be evacuated for 20 days. According to neighbours that stayed, it was safe the next day with only smoldering stumps being a concern.

2. This type of evacuation has little in common with hurricane evacuations in the US. A storm can be tracked and predicted reasonably well. A firestorm is indefinite and up to regional decision makers.

3. Lock and secure all doors and windows. Allegedly, some of the people "checking out" locked doors were cops. Sounds good, until one recalls the High River flood a few years ago where arsie-em-pee searched for and seized deer and duck hunting tools.

Four. Don't believe the hype and mainstream media regarding financial assistance available to evacuees. Yes, there are a few dollars thrown around here and there but it is not the "free holiday" that one would guess from news sites.

V. Don't trust mainstream media or social media: both lie or see things from vastly different perspectives. Our govt officials told us not to rely on social media YET by the mid to end stages were relying on social media almost exclusively themselves. All news is suspect of lies, sensationalism, and placation of the sheeple.

The best sources of information is "boots on the ground" personal connections that one then has to analyze and sift to glean truth from multiple first hand sources.
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DJPrepper
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Re: Anyone still here?

Postby DJPrepper » Mon Aug 28, 2017 10:28 pm

Odin Gray wrote:3. Lock and secure all doors and windows. Allegedly, some of the people "checking out" locked doors were cops. Sounds good, until one recalls the High River flood a few years ago where arsie-em-pee searched for and seized deer and duck hunting tools.


Read about that one, not a happy story.
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