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Postby threestorms » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:20 pm

I have been talking to some friends in the US and they do have some concerns about the next 4 years.

Regardless if Clinton or Trump get in they see them both as bad choices.

Do you think we will see more US preppers heading north of the border? or as my friends are doing they are preparing locally and preparing for economic issues.

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Re: US elections

Postby helicopilot » Thu Sep 29, 2016 3:49 am

Every 4 years (or 8) we hear of people "promising" to move north if their party doesn't get elected. I have yet to notice a mass exodus...

That said, a good American friend of mine told me that this year's election is like "choosing which STD is more desirable" ;)

It will be interesting as the candidates are frankly unusual and there will be worldwide ripple effects, likely both good and bad.
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Postby peppercorn » Thu Sep 29, 2016 4:18 am

isn't it hilarious. I view US elections as performance art. Its no wonder they have to bring (1700s) democracy to the often brown (er) peoples of the world ( or those with oil) at the end of a gun, Who would choose such a system voluntarily?
I say enjoy the show! It only comes around every 4 years.
I wouldn't worry about who is corinated, Their only purpose is for entertainment and to be a human dart board when required, while the real control and decisions are made by Corporate, Banking, and Military interests. Now least you think I am disparaging to the presidency of the USA, that's just not so, they do wield serious power, roughly equivalent to the decisions a wage slave peion like myself gets to make....what side of the toast do I butter???
Nobody is heading north...in fact last time I drove north from the USA (2012 or so) I couldn't get to the Canadian boarder until I had gone through a USA check point first. land of the free my ass. They are just as imprisoned as a 1978 east german was, but the east German was smart enough to know so. I say relax keep stocking firewood, propane, solar panels, and ethyl, and all will be as well as it can be.I think of George Carlin at such times.."we have a front row seat to the Greatest freak show on earth".

Ps I could just as easely make fun of our own ( 1800s) "designed "democratic" system but its not the topic of the day.

PS ... I have more choices ordering a pizza than I do voting, and both the cook, and delivery driver are more accountable to me....food for thought.

In fact I challenge everyone to order a pizza next (federal) election, refuse to vote untill you have at least the same say you do in ordering a pizza including sending it back.

I WANT A PIZZA EQUIVALENT DEMOCRACY!!! and don't you dare give me less..whats that noise..it looks like a drone thing and its laun.................
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Re: US elections

Postby threestorms » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:35 pm

I like the Pizza Democracy.

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Re: US elections

Postby peppercorn » Mon Oct 17, 2016 6:44 pm

I shouldn't...I should leave it alone...I really should..

But I stumbled on this gem, and since it has "Hillary for president" in it then its topic related.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKcJ-0bAHB4

You see America is getting what it deserves. When as a people your conditioned for only one action, Then why will you ever get a electoral system that works for you? You don't deserve one!! The first and only reaction your conditioned for is to have violence to anything...I know if I can get someone angry, or scared, scared works well too, then I can yank them anyway I want..

This is funny on so many levels....I had to watch it a couple times..Where do you get truck loads of young men apparently in the middle of a working day, to show up on short notice, ready to beat people to death. I couldn't likely get a ride to town in the middle of the day cause my friends are working!! and im pretty sure I couldn't find anyone who would want to go out and beat anyone up, for any reason.
And you would think these Mensa candidates would have realized they were being punked, All three guys have British accents and there are multiple film crews in plain sight., but so well conditioned are they that when the dog whistle blows.......
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Re: US elections

Postby Denob » Tue Oct 18, 2016 3:00 pm

Well, now I know one more way to commit suicide!
Just advertise yourself as a gay, Hillary supporting, nascar hating, country music bashing democrat in Alabama!
"the boys" will be along shortly.
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Re: US elections

Postby thecrownsown » Wed Oct 19, 2016 2:05 pm

Unless something of massive importance pops up to change Hillary's lead...the election for President is now over. Hillary will win. Trump, instead of playing a proper statesman to bolster support to keep Republicans in control of Congress...he's burning bridges and calling foul to save his own ego at the expense of the Republican controlled congress....

Tonight's last "debate" (If you even want to call them that.) will be another mud slinging competition with little policy or platform discussion. I'll watch...because I think I'm that type of person that slows down at car crashes too....

As a Canadian, I am equally concerned with Hillary getting in as I am with Trump. Obama ran on a platform of revamping trade deals with Canada...which would specifically hurt our exports to that country. He backed down months after winning both elections so tragedy was avoided to our economy.. Will Hillary pursue trade deals more favourable to the Us at our expense? She can't ignore the huge wave of popularity of this from her rival Trump..or even from her predecessor Obama....so as a Canadian..I still sit pensive to see what happens with her in the months/years after the election.

I don't care for John Oliver's leftist antics most of the time....but I have to admit that this was quite entertaining...and is getting way more support across the political spectrum than it would in any other election... :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3O01EfM5fU
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Re: US elections

Postby Denob » Wed Oct 19, 2016 3:34 pm

Things to do and places to go...but I'll be back to comment.
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Re: US elections

Postby Denob » Wed Oct 19, 2016 6:32 pm

Unfortunately, the US needs some SERIOUS alternative candidates...yes, the Libertarian movement is gaining popularity, but they need a serious candidate!
Something along the lines of Canada's Jack Layton, say what yu want, but he gave the traditional parties a run for their money and something to think about.
Unfortunately, without him and his charisma, the NDP has faltered back to near oblivion.
Perhaps if a serious contender were to appear for the Libertarians or Green party, they could get into the debates...that is the key...get on television!
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Re: US elections

Postby peppercorn » Wed Oct 19, 2016 8:36 pm

It just doesnt matter who is elected, and 3rd party candidates don't matter, there what the ruling economic aristocracy point to when the unwashed masses get cranky...."Just look at all the choice you have" they will exclaim. I remember one, a guy named Ross Perot or something, roughly back in 94, Now he was a sharp cookie business wise, and was very popular, in fact he was clearly warning, about the huge sucking sounds that would be heard from all the jobs being pulled away from American shores by the policies being enacted. His strategic sense did not match his business acumen though, and I suspected at the time that mid way through his presidential run that it dawned on him that even if he won , The Senate, House are all filled with bought and paid for Republicans and Democrats. He could do nothing without their approval.......and by default the approval of those interests that financed them.This is pretty basic stuff.

I am being to generous, I don't think it really dawned on him cause he was doing real well, very popular and could have grasped the gold ring, but about midway through he kind of came apart, or got wobbly in the knees and quit. I think because he hadn't figured it out yet, someone took him aside, pulled back the curtain and said "listen here you little shit" and after being given the facts of life his heart wasn't in it anymore. I am only speculating, maybe he really did figure it out on his own.

Here is a little gentle introduction to the facts of American political life: Nothing radical here.. By Professor J kroth, If you don't want to watch the whole thing the summation in the last 50 seconds is enough.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsS0FNJshYE

Here is it a little more plainly stated, George Carlin but don't be scared to click on it its work safe in fact I think its his only vid I can find that is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMI6ZmMCwWg Paper or plastic...so funny but true. Warning though..to much George Carlin and you can develop a surly attitude.

Way back in Roman times the ruling class had figured out you just have to give the masses bread and Circuses. We have come a long way, now in America you don't even have to give them bread. Enjoy the show!

It was hillarious listening to the "expert pundits" commenting on the fall of the iron curtain in the 90's, a fall that these same experts never seen coming. They stayed on script and still have...it was the military build up, our willingness to spend on arms that brought down the wall.......BS,
The communist had no one left to lie to, their own people "The Audience" had left the theater.....and wasn't coming back, even the palace guards wouldn't shoot anyone,anymore. Look at those monkeys in that top gear vid. If the communists had a well conditioned population like that, it could have gone on forever....
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