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Something Wicked This Way Comes

ShadyMapleTree
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Something Wicked This Way Comes

Postby ShadyMapleTree » Sat Aug 12, 2017 5:04 pm

Hey all,

I'm new here and just starting my preparations.

I'm acquiring a 14-day supply of food and water because the situation in the Korean Peninsula is becoming rather concerning. Trump's bluster isn't helping matters any and I do believe that people are vastly underestimating the seriousness of the situation. A diplomatic solution doesn't appear to be in the cards, nor do I think this latest round of sanctions is going to be any more effective than the last rounds of sanctions have been in trying to get North Korea to cease development of nuclear weapons and cease its provocative behaviours. In other words, I think war in the Korean peninsula is more, not less likely. And, as history has so amply shown, major wars have a tendency to spread.

Do I think Canada is under threat of being subjected to a nuclear attack by North Korea? No, but that doesn't exclude the possibility that North Korean weapons could inadvertently land on Vancouver or even Edmonton or Calgary while en route to targets in the US. While I wouldn't be immediately affected by such events as I live in southwestern Ontario, nuclear explosions in any of the cities mentioned could cause panic and chaos elsewhere in Canada and potentially disrupt supplies of food and other things. A nuke landing on Vancouver could definitely cause problems for the rest of Canada as the city is home to major ports, and some food stuffs and other essentials come into the country via those ports.

Even if one or two major US cities was attacked, the resulting disruption could potentially affect Canada as well.

Then there is the risk that a war in the Korean Peninsula could trigger a wider nuclear war. If the nuclear exchange is limited, there is a chance that my area of the country could be subjected to varying levels of radioactive fallout coming in from ground-burst strikes on US military or other strategic targets, even if Canada itself wasn't targetted. In which case, I would likely need to shelter in place until the fallout subsided to safer levels. An event such as that would definitely disrupt access to food and other essentials.

However, if a general nuclear war erupts, all bets would be off, and most major Canadian cities would become targets, thus limiting everyone's chances of survival, whether they've laid in preps or not.

My goal is to have most, if not all of my supplies and preparations in place by September 1. The reason for this is that I've seen something on the web (from various reliable sources) indicating that the US is banning all travel to North Korea effective September 1. That's not just an attempt to further ratchet up the pressure on North Korea, but an indication the US is getting ready to do something substantive that could significantly affect US citizens in the Korean peninsula. One of the curious things I've seen in world history is that major wars have tended to start after the summer holidays are over!
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Re: Something Wicked This Way Comes

Postby helicopilot » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:52 am

ShadyMapleTree wrote:Hey all,

I'm new here and just starting my preparations.

I'm acquiring a 14-day supply of food and water because the situation in the Korean Peninsula is becoming rather concerning. Trump's bluster isn't helping matters any and I do believe that people are vastly underestimating the seriousness of the situation. A diplomatic solution doesn't appear to be in the cards, nor do I think this latest round of sanctions is going to be any more effective than the last rounds of sanctions have been in trying to get North Korea to cease development of nuclear weapons and cease its provocative behaviours. In other words, I think war in the Korean peninsula is more, not less likely. And, as history has so amply shown, major wars have a tendency to spread.

Do I think Canada is under threat of being subjected to a nuclear attack by North Korea? No, but that doesn't exclude the possibility that North Korean weapons could inadvertently land on Vancouver or even Edmonton or Calgary while en route to targets in the US. While I wouldn't be immediately affected by such events as I live in southwestern Ontario, nuclear explosions in any of the cities mentioned could cause panic and chaos elsewhere in Canada and potentially disrupt supplies of food and other things. A nuke landing on Vancouver could definitely cause problems for the rest of Canada as the city is home to major ports, and some food stuffs and other essentials come into the country via those ports.

Even if one or two major US cities was attacked, the resulting disruption could potentially affect Canada as well.

Then there is the risk that a war in the Korean Peninsula could trigger a wider nuclear war. If the nuclear exchange is limited, there is a chance that my area of the country could be subjected to varying levels of radioactive fallout coming in from ground-burst strikes on US military or other strategic targets, even if Canada itself wasn't targetted. In which case, I would likely need to shelter in place until the fallout subsided to safer levels. An event such as that would definitely disrupt access to food and other essentials.

However, if a general nuclear war erupts, all bets would be off, and most major Canadian cities would become targets, thus limiting everyone's chances of survival, whether they've laid in preps or not.

My goal is to have most, if not all of my supplies and preparations in place by September 1. The reason for this is that I've seen something on the web (from various reliable sources) indicating that the US is banning all travel to North Korea effective September 1. That's not just an attempt to further ratchet up the pressure on North Korea, but an indication the US is getting ready to do something substantive that could significantly affect US citizens in the Korean peninsula. One of the curious things I've seen in world history is that major wars have tended to start after the summer holidays are over!


Welcome to IPN, ShadyMapleTree!

I commend you for starting on the way of preparedness, regardless of your motives. If I may, I'd like to caution you on "reading things on the internet" especially as it comes to preparedness. You'll find people may have their own hidden agenda and speculation/rumours abound. As a matter of example, I can tell you with a fair level of confidence that there are already no Americans travelling to the DPRK (other than that athlete buddy of Kim). Matter of factly, not too many people travel in/out of the DPRK, other than some sneaking in with activism agenda, at the risk of finding self in an unpleasant labour camp.

In all cases, I hope you'll find IPN to be a good source of information (I encourage you to use the search function) and a nice group to ask questions and bounce ideas. Perhaps you can also get some networking going!?.

Best,

HP.
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Re: Something Wicked This Way Comes

Postby Wayne » Tue Aug 15, 2017 10:45 am

China is N. Korea's leading trade partner (86% to China, Russia and Japan). On the other-hand, N. Korea isn't even in China's top 10. Interestingly enough, China's #1 trade partner is the U.S. and S. Korea ranks in at #3! It only took China to agree with the U.N. sanctions to force N. Korea to pull in it's horns.

I think that governments are largely influenced by currency. It's bad business to tick off your best customers. Unless the government of N. Korea is suicidal, they will not go against the grain too much. The populace needs to eat and Kim wants to maintain his lavish lifestyle. He needs trade for this to occur,

Nuclear weapons are another issue. The time to deter the production of them was years ago. The horse has left the barn, so closing the door is of little use. Everyone will have to deal. Using them is bad business. Having them does get N. Korea a seat at the table. I think that this was the main purpose behind their production. The cost of using them is too high.
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Re: Something Wicked This Way Comes

Postby term0shad » Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:25 am

No one stupid enough to push the button. No one wins a war with nukes. Its a lose lose if they push the button. Even if they survive. Another country would just take over whats left. As long as they don't get nailed to with missles.
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