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European Drama

Postby Esteldin » Sat Jul 09, 2016 1:58 pm

Hello everyone..
I am watching the news of the week and i am curious about this new bank fight Italy against Germany.What is your opinion about that?
Also about the nato situation against russia.Why UK send army in estonia and nato wants to build a military defense system in russia boarders?We must be on alert?
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Re: European Drama

Postby peppercorn » Sun Jul 10, 2016 7:58 am

I will just post so you don't feel ignored.....I would have to type way to much for a comprehensive answer,from my perpective, instead I will shoot for a funny one...Yes Estonia, critical to keep the world spinning on its axis...what? something like 1 point something million people, smaller than a lunch kit,...25, maybe 30 percent Russian...A country I think part of Russia, or under Russian control for 200 or more years, and ofcourse out side those years Estonia was dating other empires....
Now In thrusts the dangeling appendage of the USA (nato) to protect it....I do hope Estonia insisted on protection, if not will the USA marry her if things go wrong, I am betting not...not when the rabbit dies and things really go pear shaped, Nato membership or not.
http://observer.com/2016/02/estonia-wan ... ent-black/ ya, just a country we should die fighting for...NOT ME

And that article is your answer why UK and Canadian troops are there rather than USA troops......the black troops keep getting beaten up by the locals, and that makes for bad press, cant have bad press when your drumming for war. The thought is Canada/uk has less black soldiers (proportionaly) likely to offend the locals....
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Re: European Drama

Postby wabsey11 » Mon Jul 11, 2016 3:08 am

Hello Esteldin, I've been looking at it as well and there is no need to worry about it in my opinion. We can't do anything to change the worlds leaders opinions so you can't worry about what you can't change. Russia is never going to start anything, it's not in there interest to start anything, it's a shame that our politicians keep poking the bear though. There's no need of it, but as I stated earlier, you can't control it so no need to worry about it. All sides know that there's not one thing to gain. The only thing to do is keep having fun and hope conscription will never get invoked again. Take care from Spryfield.
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Re: European Drama

Postby helicopilot » Tue Jul 12, 2016 4:26 am

wabsey11 wrote:I've been looking at it as well and there is no need to worry about it in my opinion.


Well, optimism is a great thing, but...

wabsey11 wrote:We can't do anything to change the worlds leaders opinions so you can't worry about what you can't change.


Completely agree!!

wabsey11 wrote:Russia is never going to start anything


I think the people of South Ossetia, Georgia, Crimea and Russia may disagree a little. Same goes for pretty much any neighbouring counties (Poland and Latvia come to mind). NATO is arguably doing some fancy footsteps, but its a tough spot to be. If nothing is done, it may be perceived by the Kremlin that the rest of the world doesn't care and be seen as a green light for further expansion. If NATO comes out to strong, it can be seen as agression... Touchy!
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Re: European Drama

Postby prom » Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:31 am

Just to clarify a couple of things.
The missile defense system is not going to bu built "in russia borders". The land components of the system are located at Deveselu, Romania (1000 km from russian border), Kurecik, Turkey (600 kim) , Redzikovo, Poland (700 km) and Ramstein, Germany (1700 km) . None of the countries have a direct border with russia.

Russia has already started something by annexing Crimea, part of Ukraine, a sovereign country whose territorial integrity Russia committed to protect by signing the Budapest memorandum. Putin is a pragmatic bully and he will not go further unless he feels NATO is weak and it won't respond. This is exactly why NATO is sending troops into the eastern member countries and doing all the military exercises. And also that is why is good to have a missile defense system (which is designed to counter threats from middle east not from russia :roll: )
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Re: European Drama

Postby Esteldin » Tue Jul 12, 2016 1:58 pm

And what about with economic crysis??
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Re: European Drama

Postby prom » Wed Jul 13, 2016 5:31 am

Esteldin wrote:And what about with economic crysis??


The only thing we are certain about this is that it's coming. When, how bad, how long? It's anybody's guess
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Re: European Drama

Postby Esteldin » Wed Jul 13, 2016 2:01 pm

I am watching the Greek news and the best is increasing like hell..Every month our debt increases by 1 billion.They are demanding to stop payments at civil servants for few months.People start talking about economic crash,but if this really happens we will see scenes like Venezuela.What the news in Canada or other countries about us,because here if someone says something pretty much they shut his mouth..
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Re: European Drama

Postby thecrownsown » Wed Jul 13, 2016 10:30 pm

Esteldin wrote:I am watching the Greek news and the best is increasing like hell..Every month our debt increases by 1 billion.They are demanding to stop payments at civil servants for few months.People start talking about economic crash,but if this really happens we will see scenes like Venezuela.What the news in Canada or other countries about us,because here if someone says something pretty much they shut his mouth..


Virtually nothing in the news about Greece and their debt crisis except the odd reference on BNN or WSJ. I feel for countries like Greece, Venezuela, Argentina, etc. where free spending socialism have essentially destroyed economies and lives.... Whats truly unfortunate is that stopping the crisis before it happens would be much easier then after the crisis begins. But what politician is popular for fiscal restraint....I cant think of one at all...
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Re: European Drama

Postby wabsey11 » Thu Jul 14, 2016 12:01 am

It is true Esteldin, no one wants to acknowledge that anything is happening anywhere. Whether it's the trouble in the EU, South America, Middle East. As long as they are fed at the cheapest price possible no matter what is in the food; a co-worker was just commenting on the spray they put on the oranges to ripen then quickly as if it was a normal thing, though unfortunately it is, but shouldn't be. Or even the new situation in South Sudan, folks around here don't know, nor want to know. I still think Russia is not the threat unless we make then the threat and force then to act. We'll just have to wait, and as my old boss always said, luck favours the prepared. Take care.
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