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Venezuela crisis?

Postby Sylvie2674 » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:42 am

Has anyone else seen the Venezuela food crisis.

I was watching a documentary today on how they have one of the biggest global oil reserves. However their money is over inflated and how the city of Caracas no longer has food coming in to feed it's people. About a year ago the government had already implemented a system that people had to scan their finger prints when they went shopping and could only buy in small quantities.
There is more to this story, starting with the Chavez social government. Of course he passed away and there is a new government in charge.

I am not trying for to start a fear thread, I am just curious on everyone's insight on this situation.

Do you think this could happen here? Do you see the similarities?
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Re: Venezuela crisis?

Postby saltandprepper » Wed Apr 06, 2016 10:48 am

Just wait until the same happens here thanks to the TurdDOH government....
Yay
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Re: Venezuela crisis?

Postby Denob » Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:43 am

Sylvie2674 wrote:Has anyone else seen the Venezuela food crisis.

I was watching a documentary today on how they have one of the biggest global oil reserves. However their money is over inflated and how the city of Caracas no longer has food coming in to feed it's people. About a year ago the government had already implemented a system that people had to scan their finger prints when they went shopping and could only buy in small quantities.
There is more to this story, starting with the Chavez social government. Of course he passed away and there is a new government in charge.

I am not trying for to start a fear thread, I am just curious on everyone's insight on this situation.

Do you think this could happen here? Do you see the similarities?

Got a link to that?
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Re: Venezuela crisis?

Postby farmgal » Wed Apr 06, 2016 12:24 pm

yes, I have been following it and have been for awhile now, I find t very interesting that they are actively seeking the city population to start growing their own food, removed the chicken, small livestock laws but with no soil, no seeds, no money or training, its been interesting t read how folks are working it on that end, they are effectively on rations

as for Canada, well.. at this point the short answer is no and for a large number of reasons as I see it at this time

the slightly longer answer is all the laws needed are still on the books from the world wars time, they would just need to be kicked into place.
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Re: Venezuela crisis?

Postby helicopilot » Wed Apr 06, 2016 1:42 pm

I've been keeping an eye on this too. Not out of fear of seeing this happening soon in our neighborhood, but rather to observe how population behave when the times get rough.

Trying not to be political here, but when people want more government in their life, they have to be prepared for what may come with it!
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Re: Venezuela crisis?

Postby farmgal » Wed Apr 06, 2016 2:27 pm

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Re: Venezuela crisis?

Postby Sylvie2674 » Wed Apr 06, 2016 3:05 pm

Thank you farmgal
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Re: Venezuela crisis?

Postby thecrownsown » Wed Apr 06, 2016 5:58 pm

I have friends in Argentina and Venezuela and this has been a "slow burn" for some time. Hindsight being 20/20...its failed socialism. Not my words but theirs. Its not to the point of people starving in the streets...but its the aftermath of the initial "high" when oil companies were booted out and industries nationalized, credit ratings went to pot as the country wouldnt honour debts, etc.

It will get better....but it will take some time to rebuild a private sector, return to a more balanced economy and regain international trust in actually doing business there. Really unfortunate circumstances....
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Re: Venezuela crisis?

Postby thecrownsown » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:17 pm

farmgal wrote:http://proof.utoronto.ca/resources/proof-annual-reports/annual-report-2014/

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This is related but probably not in the way we would think about it.

First of all, two of the contributors Valeria Tarasuk and Naomi Dachner are known socialists with left of center leanings. Heavy is the staggering numbers on food insecurity...what needs to be noted is that part of the report is based on peoples responses "how they feel" not actual conditions. Also left out is the issue of food distribution..and availability...not just food consumption. Anyone in Northern Ontario let alone the arctic knows that finding some of the basics like celery can be a chore whether the money is available or not...its simple logistics. Anyone outside of major city centers can face this. And finally, they are very shy on the larger picture as to where money in households is actually allocated...so is it the fact that money is spent elsewhere and not on food...or simply not enough money overall in a household. The report does allude to the inevitable socialist repose though: These households cant provide for themselves...the government must do so for them. And how does a government provide for a segment of society? By taking from another segment.

How is it related to Argentina and Venezuela? We've seen the initial good intentions and supposed benefits of socialism where everyone gets a steak dinner and fancy car...and then the aftermath as the economy goes into a free fall from the "readjustments" made by meddling and appropriation by the state.

We've seen this play out time and again...
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Re: Venezuela crisis?

Postby Sylvie2674 » Wed Apr 06, 2016 6:28 pm

I will get the links on tonight when I get home.
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