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North Korea vs. Trump

Postby PrepHer » Wed Aug 09, 2017 3:16 pm

The shouting back and forth seems to be escalating between Kim and Trump. All hell could break loose with these two in control. Here's another good article on preparing for nuclear fallout
http://americanmilitarynews.com/2017/07 ... itarymemes
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Re: North Korea vs. Trump

Postby Denob » Wed Aug 09, 2017 6:14 pm

I used to think that NK just wanted to be taken seriously at the international table...no one with nukes gets ignored.
Then I used to think that this nut job was actually crazy enough to launch a nuke up Trumps backside...just for giggles and s#!&$.
Now I really don't know what to think, but I suspect that a third party is going to have to grab these two brats by the ear and sit them down in a time out.
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Re: North Korea vs. Trump

Postby peppercorn » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:29 pm

I find it very funny that every time Trump has beaked off North Korea fires off ever more missiles. They have crossed every line Trump laid down.
Trump has painted and backed himself into a corner so to speak, painting over his own feet now.
North Korea not even a remote threat to North America. Despite the quickly put out reports that US "intelligence" I use the word mockingly, states that Nk has miniature war heads now.
They don't have reliable missiles, don't have reliable re-entry vehicles, don't have long range accurate targeting ability, don't have solid fueled rockets, and thats what you really need for launching a surprise attack.
These liquid fueled rockets are a joke as a threat. Every launch has been telegraphed to the Americans a hour or two ahead of time, because of the fueling time needed.
I have seen this show in one form or another since Regan, where he was claiming NK to be one of the greatest threats to democracy.
And shouldn't the USA be democratic before it claims its democracy is threatened.
Funny thing is the USA is in the strongest position for negotiating, for as long as I can remember North Korea has been wanting a peace treaty, but no one would talk to them about it...South Korea now wants to talk with the North, and looking at this years crop forcasts NK may be in the worst position since the 90s...
But how can any negotiations with the Americans be taken serious by anyone, Ask Kadafi how giving up his nuclear program worked, By accident a agreement was made with Iran, that Trump is now doing everything to tear up.Ask the Russians how much they like American troops on their borders, after promises were made that wouldn't be the case.
Making deals with Americans is a fools bet, much better to have nukes.
After trump said they had better not threaten America again, The north Koreans said they would attack Guam, Im starting to like the plucky guy from the north.

here is a more a rational assessment of the norths ability.

http://thebulletin.org/talk-north-korea ... ecker10996
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Re: North Korea vs. Trump

Postby peppercorn » Fri Aug 11, 2017 3:27 pm

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Re: North Korea vs. Trump

Postby DJPrepper » Wed Aug 23, 2017 9:30 pm

Bannon has kind of killed this off with his interview prior to exit.

Hard to see someone on the U.S. being able to push for a confrontation now.
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Re: North Korea vs. Trump

Postby peppercorn » Sun Aug 27, 2017 9:44 pm

Im finding this whole drama interesting, and in a way funny. Kim just tried to test fire 3 rockets and had 3 failures. You just have to know someone will have to answer for that.
Trump isn't quite beaking off so much lately. I suspect that the South Korean's and Chinese have been stressing to the Mad Kings entourage that attacking North Korea is a no go, and will not be without consequences.
Never been a better time to talk with NK...

Like I have been saying NK not even a remote threat to North America, and this report from the guys who build such things, and can work a slide rule confirm it.
http://thebulletin.org/north-korea%E2%8 ... tates11012
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Re: North Korea vs. Trump

Postby Wayne » Mon Aug 28, 2017 11:07 am

Forgive the cross-post, but the threads run into each other:

China is N. Korea's leading trade partner (86% to China, Russia and Japan). On the other-hand, N. Korea isn't even in China's top 10. Interestingly enough, China's #1 trade partner is the U.S. and S. Korea ranks in at #3! It only took China to agree with the U.N. sanctions to force N. Korea to pull in it's horns.

I think that governments are largely influenced by currency. It's bad business to tick off your best customers. Unless the government of N. Korea is suicidal, they will not go against the grain too much. The populace needs to eat and Kim wants to maintain his lavish lifestyle. He needs trade for this to occur,

Nuclear weapons are another issue. The time to deter the production of them was years ago. The horse has left the barn, so closing the door is of little use. Everyone will have to deal. Using them is bad business. Having them does get N. Korea a seat at the table. I think that this was the main purpose behind their production. The cost of using them is too high.
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Re: North Korea vs. Trump

Postby peppercorn » Tue Aug 29, 2017 12:48 am

No I don't think NK has pulled in its horns as you say, but I do agree that now that they have them they wont be letting them go. In fact it would be suicide do so. I don't see sanctions as having much of a effect. Its not in China's, or Russia's interest to cripple north Korea more, neither would want the NK state to collapse or join with South Korea, as by default that would move the Americans even closer to their borders.
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Re: North Korea vs. Trump

Postby peppercorn » Tue Aug 29, 2017 4:55 am

Launched another! and over American protected Japan, poking the mericans right in the eye! Im really starting to like that Kim Un something something guy, he"s got a real pair of stones. Now whats the mad king going to do?

Something like 16 years fighting in Afganastan, winning every year, every battle, winning in every way, now a American soldier who had a child in 2001, by next year or so can see his child off to continue killing the very people he started killing in 2001. I watched Dumya in 2001 say how they would fight forever however long it took , and how you were with them or against them..... I thought right then and there America is done, put a fork in them...they decided to answer a intelligence failure with a unlimited military response, I seen right then that they had too...there was no intelligent response a American could come up with....put a fork in them.
Iraq, same thing, its unending, its how America makes money, Military expenditures are the GDP of the USA, arm both sides. China is building, and all across the continent, look up belt and road initiative. America just destroys, its what they have practised for, others build.
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Re: North Korea vs. Trump

Postby Wayne » Tue Aug 29, 2017 8:48 am

Stone? No. He just needs to catch a brainwave... LOL
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