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Singlecell
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Drone Surveillance?

Postby Singlecell » Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:07 pm

No, not the governments. I'm talking about owning your own drones. I think it'd be useful either in a bug in OR bug out situation. Imagine being able to examine a 360 degree view at 300 feet range. Now THAT is an advantage in ANY situation. Check out a few options...

http://www.complexmag.ca/tech/2013/03/1 ... right-now/

I was gonna get a GOPRO hero 3 Helmet cam anyways for some travelling by bicycle. Now that I see some of these drones are built for such a camera, I'm definitely keeping it on the list for things to buy.

What do you guys think?
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Screedcrete
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Re: Drone Surveillance?

Postby Screedcrete » Fri Nov 15, 2013 5:24 am

As a guy that has been quite heavily involved with RC's, the RC community and ran an RC business I would ponder a few questions that pretty much all relate to power. Everything you are talking about needs it. You need to charge up the camera, the RC plane or quad copters have proven useful as the army can attest too. Even if you go Nitro you will not have but more than a few gallons of it at 40-50 bucks a gallon and still you need to charge up the unit for all the servos and drivers. Electric is the way to go for stealth but again lots of power. Most things in the air only have a 10-20min top flight. You will need power to monitor the viewer for watching at the base and still you need a pilot if you are to view the screen yourself. Solar may be able to cut it and it would be a pretty small unit to try and take out of the air so its kind of a sound idea if you can power the stuff up. I would suggest a solar option with a battery bank of at least 2 fullsize batteries on a constant feed of solar and yes you just might make a go of it. Just make sure your not flying and viewing as your adversary walks into your hut. With some care and attention it would not be hard to find your location as the range on most all of the stuff in question is quite short. like 1/4 mile only and thats a good estimate. You can PM me if you have any personal questions on RC stuff in general.
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Singlecell
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Re: Drone Surveillance?

Postby Singlecell » Fri Nov 15, 2013 3:51 pm

Screedcrete wrote:As a guy that has been quite heavily involved with RC's, the RC community and ran an RC business I would ponder a few questions that pretty much all relate to power. Everything you are talking about needs it. You need to charge up the camera, the RC plane or quad copters have proven useful as the army can attest too. Even if you go Nitro you will not have but more than a few gallons of it at 40-50 bucks a gallon and still you need to charge up the unit for all the servos and drivers. Electric is the way to go for stealth but again lots of power. Most things in the air only have a 10-20min top flight. You will need power to monitor the viewer for watching at the base and still you need a pilot if you are to view the screen yourself. Solar may be able to cut it and it would be a pretty small unit to try and take out of the air so its kind of a sound idea if you can power the stuff up. I would suggest a solar option with a battery bank of at least 2 fullsize batteries on a constant feed of solar and yes you just might make a go of it. Just make sure your not flying and viewing as your adversary walks into your hut. With some care and attention it would not be hard to find your location as the range on most all of the stuff in question is quite short. like 1/4 mile only and thats a good estimate. You can PM me if you have any personal questions on RC stuff in general.



You're absolutely right. Quite a lot of power I can imagine, especially some of the more expensive kinds. It would be a good idea for sure, but the situation I'm referring to probably wouldn't have any power involved. Oh well, guess theirs other stuff to buy then that will be more useful. Still, I'm keeping it on the list, such a thing could come in handy.
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Re: Drone Surveillance?

Postby carbon04 » Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:19 pm

there was one came to the market not to long ago. Penguin UAV I think, for civilian purchase. It will take a 10kg camera and has a 36 hour flight time at 1,000 feet...bout 36mph from what I recall.
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Knuckle
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Re: Drone Surveillance?

Postby Knuckle » Sun Apr 13, 2014 11:17 pm

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Re: Drone Surveillance?

Postby Knuckle » Fri Apr 18, 2014 2:22 am

Seems the one that authorities use most is the Skate. I can't find a price but heres the link http://www.aurora.aero/Products/Skate.aspx .
Also found the SpyHawk which seems pretty decent for $219 at http://www.spyhawkfpv.com/collections/aircraft/products/hubsan-spyhawk-fpv-plane.

Imagine that you suspect an enemy force is moving in on your location. You have the defensive position(which is good), but you lack the people to defend all your assets properly. What you need then is intel to better determine the proper plan of action. The drone you purchased is likely limited by the investment made. If it has have real time viewing and some decent flight time, you can obtain intel that could be the deciding factor in the outcome of such an event.
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Knuckle
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Re: Drone Surveillance?

Postby Knuckle » Fri Sep 26, 2014 4:01 pm

Amazon asks for FAA approval to fly drones for package delivery https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOf22_d9nEs
Wonder what happens if folks start shooting them down for the packages :D

another interesting video I found, The Future of Drones over the US https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwkxx84wXNo
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endangeredspecies
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Re: Drone Surveillance?

Postby endangeredspecies » Fri Sep 26, 2014 9:56 pm

i think its total waste and useless
come fly ur drone over my land and il shoot them down whit 4$ bullet
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Knuckle
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Re: Drone Surveillance?

Postby Knuckle » Sat Sep 27, 2014 12:31 am

endangeredspecies wrote:i think its total waste and useless
come fly ur drone over my land and il shoot them down whit 4$ bullet


LOL, thanks for reaffirming that some others don't quite agree with this concept yet either :lol:

Now for another eye opener, this next video show just how advanced drones may yet become https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUAu ... 2itwFJCgFQ
Imagine that the global positioning could easily become that GPS system we use daily. If a fast enough CPU were installed on a drone, could it eventually be capable of reacting to maneuver out of the way of a speeding bullet?
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Re: Drone Surveillance?

Postby endangeredspecies » Sat Sep 27, 2014 2:07 am

i have buy just for fun a quadcopter named hubsan x4 it has camera and built in lcd on controler for 200$
wich is fun but cant really fly good just using the camera

there one drone it couldnt be shoot eassy look this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zncK2XyA7Yw
amazing but the price is insane and i doubt it has long range but for recon its a must :)
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