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Burglar Alarm System - What Do You Have?

Postby helicopilot » Sat Aug 20, 2016 3:33 pm

Hi all,

I'm looking at acquiring a mean of protecting our property. I'm not talking post-zombie apocalypse barb-wire fence, foot-tangle strings, caltrops and loaded shotgun here! Something for day-to-day use.

My concerns is that police don't seem to respond to burglar alarms anymore, especially if living out of town. Monitored alarms charge a fortune and then again, unless a burglar is confirmed to be on site, police likely won't bother responding.

I've looked at the "Blink" wireless/wi-fi cameras, but they are only indoor cameras and placing them in the windows facing outward won't trigger alarms as the sensors can't work through windows. I don't see a point of installing such a system that spends more time monitoring my family inside the house than potential burglar coming from outside. Other systems that can be installed outside seem a bit cumbersome and are more expensive.

My consideration:

1) Effective
2) affordable
3) easy to install (don't need to be super techie
4) satisfy insurance companies (ideally)
5) visible deterrent

By the way, don't bother mentioning "dog", it's been loudly vetted out as an option by Mrs HP!
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Postby peppercorn » Sat Aug 20, 2016 4:42 pm

Your talking different things here...first, alarm.. something to notify you of entry on your property...then 2nd security in the sense of stopping them, 3rdly, recording capability. I will pm you some pictures later.

No dog she said?....Your very lucky, I have found most women don't want to stay out side patrolling the yard themselves.
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Re: Burglar Alarm System - What Do You Have?

Postby helicopilot » Sat Aug 20, 2016 5:01 pm

Completely agree with you on 3 different things. Security options here are limited, especially when excluding dogs. Even tongue-in-cheek stickers like "This house is protected by Remington" can probably land you in trouble!
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Re: Burglar Alarm System - What Do You Have?

Postby farmgal » Sat Aug 20, 2016 7:45 pm

I agree, having a system that lets you see what is happening in the house or rings to let you know something crosses the driveway is good.. I have the dogs, so that is a big thing for me.. but my second line of defence that has worked is motion hunting camera's.

I used them when the folks were stealing from my front road garden, I used them to get the point across on who was racing up my fence lines and running my sheep flock. Had to say.. no, that's not me, when I have the photo with your number on the machine etc..

You can figure it out.. bottom line, they help you figure out what is after the chickens, or other livestock, they help you figure out if the local pack is pushing in to your fences, they help you figure out if anyone drove in.. just get camo ones and put them up high enough up that it takes a ladder to get them up and down so they do not "go for a walk"
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Postby helicopilot » Sat Aug 20, 2016 9:46 pm

farmgal wrote:I agree, having a system that lets you see what is happening in the house or rings to let you know something crosses the driveway is good.. I have the dogs, so that is a big thing for me.. but my second line of defence that has worked is motion hunting camera's.

I used them when the folks were stealing from my front road garden, I used them to get the point across on who was racing up my fence lines and running my sheep flock. Had to say.. no, that's not me, when I have the photo with your number on the machine etc..

You can figure it out.. bottom line, they help you figure out what is after the chickens, or other livestock, they help you figure out if the local pack is pushing in to your fences, they help you figure out if anyone drove in.. just get camo ones and put them up high enough up that it takes a ladder to get them up and down so they do not "go for a walk"


Do you/can you get good enough definition to get licence plates and recognizable facial features?
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Postby farmgal » Sat Aug 20, 2016 10:05 pm

Sometimes no and sometimes yes, Normally just including a post that says, Smile you are on camera helps in the garden and such, but for the other one, yes, I got it enough that when I showed it.. the person took one look, said, I got this.. and I left it at that, and it stopped and the next time the wife say me, she said sorry and that it would not happen again.

Basic's for sure.. again, it depends on where its set up, angles and such and quality of the camera
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Postby peppercorn » Sun Aug 21, 2016 6:53 am

Ok game cameras can be great,I use them, mine are from 6 years or so, so frankly they would likely be blown out of the water by the performance of new ones, though there are still draw backs, one they can be defeated in 2 ways(I have done so when I know the location of them ) Im not stating how here so don't ask...some models are just too slow on fast moving objects to capture a pic, sensitivity and picture quality can suffer in certain weather conditions and range is limited. test what you buy in the location you want to use it, test it in all lighting conditions. This is The kind I have..old now though.but in knowing there limitation I still have use for them.
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I never found the case secure enough though, what good is a camera that can be taken? or opened and dicked with...So I welded up steel boxes (12 gauge steel)for mine, mounted them up high so a ladder is needed, these boxes are screwed to the tree, the top lid lifted up then the camera slid in from above and the camera is then covering the screw heads that hold the steel frame to the tree. once in the protective box a 7 16th screw with two nuts on the shaft is screwed up into the bottom of the camera (through the bottom of the steel case. using the two 7 16th nuts I jam them against each other and the case locking the camera and case tightly together with the shaft of the 7 16th bolt.
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Now I found there are two other products well above game cameras quality wise, but similar in price, with none of the draw backs, and I have moved to these products. I don't feel like posting these on a public forum so I will pm them to you with further info, but not tonight I got to get to bed.

Changed my mind, I will put one here now...Its the plot watcher....this thing is the bomb as the kids say, forget motion sensing, this thing snaps pics all the time, a half second apart...no problem, one second or 5..or video .whatever you want, will run for more than 6 months on batteries all kind of user settings including having it sleep for 3-5 months then start taking pictures...Picture quality is outstanding cause you can order quality zoom lenses or wide angle, with the zoom lens you can mount it far away and it will contiuiously snap pics, it does not have to be activated by IR or motion.
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Note the thickness of the lens, just unscrew it and you can put on another. what you cant tell from the pic is that the lens (outer surface) is not flat, its curved. It doesn't reflect light back giving away its location!! so if someone lazed or flashed your location trying to pick up a return flash they wouldn't get one. This thing is quality, but again maybe 5 years old so likely newer products out there though this is-was firstrate. the rest to your pm, in confidence sunday.
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Re: Burglar Alarm System - What Do You Have?

Postby wabsey11 » Mon Aug 22, 2016 1:04 am

Something I've been doing for years and is quick and simple is I hang a bell on the front and back door. If you hang it on the inside the moment someone tries to enter the bell rings and they are busted. Last Oct it did its job by warning my wife and I that there was someone trying to open our rear door at 2am. Something simple but very effective.
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Re: Burglar Alarm System - What Do You Have?

Postby helicopilot » Tue Aug 23, 2016 1:51 am

Well, I don't think I moved into a high crime area, but our community mailbox was broken into today (1/2 mile from our house) so there are definitely sh$@theads in the area. We'll step up our burglar prevention plan a notch.
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