Kubota BX23S

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Kubota BX23S

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Anyone have any experience with the Kubota BX23S? Now that our house has sold, and we are headed to our property near Burns Lake, we are going to need a small tractor. Quads are out of the question, so we have narrowed it down to the BX23S, since it has a bucket as well as a back hoe, and we can get an optional snowblower.


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I had a a larger L series kubota that I used very effectively to haul 2 foot logs out of the bush, collect maple syrup ( not to wide and went into bush nicely), gravel......

Huge mistake, I sold it when I figured my heavy days were done and got the one you mentioned. Like every tool, they have their right job. I found myself needing to use the bucket to help get me unstuck when the tiny tires would leave the flat driveway and go over the small edge of maybe ten inches into the bush. The small tires even with 4WD couldn’t back up and onto the driveway. I found the back hoe to be utterly useless for stump removal. Bucket is so tiny And if loaded with gravel is very easily prone to tipping ( to narrow of a wheelbase and slightest imbalance will tip it.

If you are on flat grassed or pastures, want it for very, very light work around a Large garden, digging post holes or trenching in Sand or very loose soil, mucking out of a barn, mowing of a horse pasture... then I would say you should be fine. Go into a soft pasture and those tiny front tires will sink in and your toast. Useless in even the flattest of bush and will get hung up on a tiny tree stump or dip.

Ask your dealer to bring one out to try, ask them to also bring out a small Or medium “Lx or L” series to try. Not knowing your situation, all I can say is the B series is while a good unit for a barn or estate mowing/ work situation is to small for any “Off a flat hard surface work”
I tried them and gave them a few months so I could see if I could adapt to smaller unit and no luck, went back up to L series.

A good dealer will come out and also look at your situation and tell you what you need.

If the right unit is to high in price, consider a used one but don’t go undersized. You’ll just be frustrated, damage the unit or maybe even hurt yourself or others if it tips....

Also, forget the flat tread tires, get deeper tread agriculture ones for any bush or snow work. Flats are ok for the barn or for mowing of hard packed land. Also fill with the tires with whatever eco friendly stuff they put in these days, stcock tires come empty of additional weight
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Great information. Glad you had hands on experience with the BX23. Did you have those flat 'lawn tractor' tires or the more aggressive agri. ones? For the most part it will be on compact ground. Not planning on lifting big trees or stumps. For the most part, I think the biggest tree I have seen on the property is about 15". 6-12" is the most common. Which back hoe bucket did you have? They have a 16" now, not sure if I need it or not, but I am leaning that way for cleaning out the ditches beside the driveway. How are these tractors in snow? We will be getting a lot of it. Should I check into the snow blower attachment, or stick with the bucket? Thanks.
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Had flat tires so mistake #1
I never tried it, but if on flat, firm ground, I think you found drag out a eight foot log of ten inches in diameter but you would likely need some weights on the front to keep nose down and front wheels helping.
I doubt the bucket would have the strength to lift up a chained log if you wanted to back out while lifting bathe log so it doesn’t get hung up.

I tried going through some small dips and it just got hung up.

I believe the bucket width was 12 inches or so, but it was the strength of the bucket that was the issue for removing stumps. I would try attacking the roots to lessen the load and I gave up. I guess if one was bored and felt a day digging up a ten inch tree was time well spent then you’ll have your wish. That’s why I said soft sand or loose dirt, I have worked construction band know what it takes and you need the right equipment, fiddling around can work at times but if you want to get the job done , get the right tool

For perspective, we have a thousand foot driveway pf 18 feet widewith about another six hundred feet of driveways around the buildings along with parking space for fifty cars if I wanted . My L series with grader blade on the back and my bucket will clear a six inch snow storm up Nicely down to the gravel in about two hours Of steady work.
My BX experience was with a front end blower and it was a royal pain. Worked well on flat ground but a slight slope was an issue. The dealer said to put on chains and a weight on the rear. Well good lord, what a pain. My mind told me, screw fiddling around with work around and just get what is needed. Like trying to shoot a moose with a 22. Can be done if needed but if you have a choice!

Put the tiny grader blade on the back to try that and it was useless. Again, having used the old L series type for twenty years and going down to smaller unit was murder. If you have a lot of snow, that bucket will keep you real busy. You didn’t indicate the length or size of driveway so can’t guess at time you would need. It’s a pretty tiny bucket on the Bx and if that snow is wet, you will likely have load tipping issues. So chains and a real heavy weight attachment on the rear will be needed for traction and to keep it from tipping! I never ever came close to starting to tip over / wheels lifting off the ground as when I had that Bx

If you want to go into the bush for the trees you mentioned and either brag out or use bucket to load up cut logs, the Bx is going to take a lot more time to do the job and that’s if you don’t get stuck or tip. Take a look at it beside an L series and you will see the ground clearance difference etc. if height is an issue for getting it into your garage, look at lowering the roll bar on the L series to get in.

The Bx is a tempting unit and is why I initially went for it when I thought I could downsize. Didn’t work for me and my property and I have pretty good dry and what I consider easy to navigate bush, my pastures are pretty dry as well but I really didn’t feel good about brush hogging them when they were a bit wet.

Hope that helps, I gave the Bx a good try for about six months but it couldn’t get what I considered light work done. I would never even consider it for hauling out a 12 inch log. It could drag it on a gravel road but I can’t see it not getting bogged down or hung up in a flat bush lot.
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Good to hear. Our driveway is 450 ft to the garage area, then a laneway to the house, which is another 150 ft. Never thought about using it to drag logs out of the bush. Of course, if we took the back hoe off it would definitely give more movement. We just planned on cutting them up to 16" lengths then throwing them in the back of the truck or maybe a small trailer, or even the front bucket. Then use it for making trails around the lot, and to the ravine we have at the back. Will check out the L series for sure. Watched a video 'walk around' of the L. Did yours have that 'clean burn' technology on it? Where if you don't have the RPMs up it will shut down and you have to let it sit running for up to a half an hour? This might only be on the latest ones. I had to deal with that when I was driving Tractor-Trailers. What a pain in the ass that is, when you have to pull over (if you can find a place to pull over) and let it do its thing. The thought of having to do that on a tractor in mosquito country doesn't impress me. LOL Starting to see a lot of used stuff coming on the market so maybe I can score a decent deal on an L. Thanks.
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Oh, I went into my bush with backhoe on and that got me hung up even more, the extra length and weight was to much for the low ground clearance and tiny tires up front.

I Would use my Straight axel honda 500 rubicon with a standard trailer to haul out 16 logs before I would ever consider the Bx. Get far more in the trailer then tiny bucket and not get stuck! Put it in low gear and one would be far further ahead.
Had an old 1988 honda 300 4WD and that would even beat the Bx for hauling out wood in a bush lot.

As to clean burn, it does have some anti pollution junk on it but so far, never an issue with the L series, I believe it’s a 2018 year. Run it six hours in 90 degree high humidity Brush hogging my fence rows... winter for 3-4 hours on a big one foot plus dump of snow.....

The other thing I just though of was if you ever want to use the front bucket to lift any beams... for a build job, carry some good sized rocks... you will want the lift power and height of the larger L series or other make tractor.
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Went to the dealer today to check out what they had. Saw the BX23 sitting next to a 2320, 2380 and the L series. Started talking to the guy about what you said, he agreed with you 100%. L3601 with the bucket, backhoe, canopy and block heater, 52,000 dollars. And they will ship it. Quote is coming for the shipping, but he figured it would be around 1200 for shipping, Which is just fine with me. I spend almost that in gas round trip, in my truck. I'm not going to waste time looking for a better deal, this guy stood with us in the pouring rain talking about everything on the L and the comparison of the two tractors. The L is quite a bit bigger than the BX for sure. Lifts almost 2x the BX, and it has lots of clearance. I liked the fact that it has its own seat for the backhoe. My wife, with her short legs, has a problem straddling the controls, but they fit me perfectly. The only (and I mean ONLY) thing I don't like is that REGEN for the engine. Used to hate that when driving Tractor Trailers, revving the heck out of the engine or she puts you on the side of the road, for a half hour. At least there is no DEF fluid needed. Lots of room to do maintenance is nice. But DAMN is it huge. I'll have to clear some more land just to park it.
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I can’t comment on the Kubota, but I have a small Massey acreage tractor, 22.5HP. I bought it used and had a good deal on it, but I find it too small. It’s mostly used in the winter to clear the driveway and the odd jobs in the summer. It has Ag tires and I bought chains for the winter. It get stuck all the time due to the low ground clearance. I find there’s little digging power with the front-end loader which is quite tiny.

If I had to buy a new tractor, I would certainly buy a size larger. Like many things in life, if you think you “need X”, buy X+1!
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Preppersaurus, I have the L3550, I need to fold my roll bar to get into my garage. Check your door height with dealer to see if it fits in without folding the bar. Easy to get down or up, but I just keep mine down.

72 inch grader blade. Had rear snowblower on previous L series but didn’t bother this time around. Maybe try one winter without it and see if you actually need it.

While I had a backhoe for the dinky toy, I decided not to get it for the L. I could afford it, but didn’t think it would be worth it for what I have to do. Hard one to call because they do cost money and I don’t know your requirements, wish I could be of more help on such an expensive purchase.

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I had a b6200 before I upgraded a couple years ago. Because I have a substantial wood lot My primary consideration was the weight of the machine for both traction and ballast and I ended up with an L4701. From the sounds of it this is more tractor than you’ll need but I definitely recommend the other L series machines over the b series just because of the extra weight on the larger chassis. My old B6200 lacked ability even doing snow removal. Despite chains and four wheel drive it didn’t have the weight to push and pull anything substantial I really encourage you to get the skid steer quick attach on the FEL. I switch between the bucket, pallet forks and a plow blade frequently and with ease. A rear PTO driven snowblower with the front blade is a dream in the winter. As for the backhoe it was an extra $12000 for my machine. I am able to rent a more powerful mini excavator locally for under $300 per day. having used both I know you can get way more done on tracks than on a backhoe. For the amount of digging I need to do I decided to save the money on the purchase and just rent as I need it. Another thing to consider is that kubota pricing is much cheaper on cash sales. You might easily save $10,000 on your purchase price if you don’t have to finance. Hope some of this helps.
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