Permaculture Forest Garden

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Sounds like a lot of Fun (hard work). Should keep your muscles loose until you stop.
Check out www.permies.com, also you may want to look into bee keeping. Cost effective and neccessary for most gardens, and of course theres the honey and wax.both great for preserving.

I would love to help, but still can't seem to get any more than seven days in a week.


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While had had done small mounds for planting, we have started building based on the german models in regards to hugelculture, is that what you mean when you are talking about Permaculture forest garden, if so, perhaps you will find the post's I did on it useful, and I will answer any questions on what we have learned building a number of different ones and or questions if I can.

http://livingmydreamlifeonthefarm.wordp ... -part-one/

http://livingmydreamlifeonthefarm.wordp ... -year-one/
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Had a look around the net and at amazon in regards to Forest Garden, hmmm, its appears to be very much what I call "my gardening in plain site" with a wonderful blend of hedges, and plants that look wild and produce a huge amount of food and medical value if you know what you are looking at.

Anyone got a recommendation on which of the books is worth the read?
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I and a group I own land with are going to be starting a permaculture food forest, on a property just on the edge of the Canadian shield.

There are alot of videos on youtube; I would especially suggest looking up Sepp Holzer - by playing with micro-climates, he could grow Mediterranean species up in the Alps.

To echo someone else: I think the best thing to do is observe the site to get an idea of it's micro-climate, and existent ecology; and then see how much you can mimic nature. For example: maybe the "natural" forests around your chunk of land already have alot of wild edibles? Oaks, service-berries, blueberries, raspberries, wallnuts, wild apples, wild cherries, hawthorns, sun-chokes, etc etc etc...? - Your forest garden could be heavy on the natives - just be a higher concentration of "edible perennial per acre" - with suitable non-native/cultivars thrown in as desired.

One thing to think about too, if you haven't read up on the topic yet: a forest garden isn't necessarily just about edible plant species, it should also contain plants that support your edibles (ex. fast-growing pioneer species that you can "chop and drop" for mulch, or, plants that attract pollinators or other beneficial insects and wildlife, or, "sacrificial" plants specifically for the deer, to keep them from munching you baby fruit trees). A forest garden can also include really any plant that you consider useful and therefor want: trees for timber or fire; plants that produce fibers with which you could make clothing.
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farmgal wrote:Had a look around the net and at amazon in regards to Forest Garden, hmmm, its appears to be very much what I call "my gardening in plain site" with a wonderful blend of hedges, and plants that look wild and produce a huge amount of food and medical value if you know what you are looking at.

Anyone got a recommendation on which of the books is worth the read?
Sepp Holzer has put out a few books, his latest is the best I have ever seen. Go to his website and you can preview the book there. Very detailed and he goes through everything step by step, as well as growing Fruits and Nuts at an elevation of 1500m in the mountains.
Absolutely awesome.
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Thanks Wilderness, will check that out and add it to my always growing book collection!
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Follow up, my Sepp Holzer book arrived yesterday and I have give it the first read, some things I am already doing but I can see a number of things in the book that I will give a try and see how they do in my area, thanks again for the review and recommend.
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Hey your welcome, he is my new Hero and I mean that, right up there with Billy Bishop and Terry Fox.

I am glad you like it go to my post on permaculture garden http://wildernessreturn.wordpress.com/2 ... rden-soon/ and there is a listing for some other Permaculturists, including a Lecture Series on Permaculture.

The Lecture series is good because they do field trips to many similar sites to permaculture. Although his house is small and his yard is small he shows how you can change your footprint into a positive one, the best for his house is Lecture Series 5 or 6. That series is his trip to his house with detailed info on a frog pond and how it increases the biodiversity of his setup and how it interacts and enhances the permaculture garden he has set up.
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Hi Wilderness

Question for you or any of the others that are wanting to do this on a larger scale.. to keep it simple, if you did the raised hugel beds for a acre, has anyone figured out the math to see just how much extra sqaure foot planting land you would get with this system? I am now going to have to go measure my own big bed, and do a math, but I am hoping that perhaps some of you have done this already in your own planning?
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My situation changed, the person who I thought was a friend allowed me to work there for a year, then he changed! So now not doing this except on paper again, looking for another winter abode, once a week per month abode for 2 yrs, then full time.

Raised bed like Sepp's would make more room, raised beds like the typical planter style less room. His ideas and designs are more vertical, so up and across, the other are just up, then flat. Ps I am not good at math anymore, after the incident so not the person to ask. Now I can post some dimensions and someone else can figure it out?

slanted rise Hugle bed;
4' up with a slope/incline of 45deg per side
other side
4' up with a slope/incline of 45deg
top ledge 6" across
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walkway in between rows of 3' wide

other dimensions recommended by him are up to 6' high similar angles, so??
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