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Crowns own and I've been trying to form a MAG (mutual aid group) in Ontario for at least two years now. We've both given away supplies; had meeting/ people at our homes and offered to help others do projects to show good faith and learn new skills. Many came to a few meetings and only two other Ppl I know had meetings at their house once. We're looking for ppl/ families that are interested in insuring their future by being ready financially/ water/ food and most importantly what we all lack: like minded people that are insured like us. Have supplies saved up in case of an ice storm. My supplies would dwindle quickly if I had to feed a group by myself. How does one family watch over itself 24/7 with sufficient numbers? What about build perennial systems like food/ water/ shelter that auto sustain themselves and provide cashflow that pay for themselves? Just having a cool place to go fish/ hunt and sit by a fire with friends that are self sufficient! Don't need hand outs
By the way for the people that don't give for fear of not receiving/ getting stolen from or found out; how many prepping buddies you got? It's going to stay that way! We're all here because we need skills/ feedback on things our families know very little or nothing about; call us paranoid. Because having something such a water saved is bat *censored* I'm a potty mouth crazy
That's just the thing, though. Those pocket survival kits have been sold in sports stores forever. A true commitment to prepping goes well beyond buying small do-dads that'll support you for two or three days (and not in comfort either, unless they've shrunk a sleeping bag into that sardine can). It's planning how to heat and power your house when the grid is down, or how to obtain potable water, or having plans of what to take and how to reach one another if you have to evacuate and you're apart. I'll tell you now, nobody I personally know has even bothered to think about that, and many don't even want to hear about it.Protector wrote:I agree that even the most expensive polls can be wrong. Trump proved that... It does show a tendency that I've been seeing over the last five years. Main stream stores selling preparedness items. Small stores from all over Canada opening to serve the preparedness market. Most small hunting stores in my area now have small pocket survival kits. At the same time the prepping forums I frequent are extremely slow and contain few posts or gossip.
It's sad, too, when you consider what some people think is "an imminent emergency." One dope at work once started asked me about kayaking barrels for food storage. I told him that kayaking barrels were not food-grade quality plastic, and could potentially ruin his food supply. I then asked him why he needed them. This conversation was in September 2012, and he told me it was because the Mayan calendar said the end of the world would happen in October. I just stared at him for a few seconds, absolutely gobsmacked, then I said, "Y'know we had an ice storm once, right? No power for days on end, freezing cold, right?" "This,"' I said, pointing at his calendar, "this is what you're f**king preparing for!?" Once the Mayan calendar scare was over he went back to being his regular stupid self, no more prepping required, apparently.
There was one bright spot on the prepping horizon once, many years ago, but I haven't seen it since. It was the April after Stephen Harper first got elected. One night on TV there was an ad for National Emergency Preparedness Week, which I believe is May 6th to 12th this year. They even gave the Government of Canada Emergency Preparedness website address: https://www.getprepared.gc.ca/index-en.aspx
If you asked for it, they'd send you - taxpayer funded, I refuse to use the word "free" when talking about stuff the government hands out, all sorts of pamphlets and posters containing emergency preparedness info, some specific to your area of the country. They still have all those documents, but now you have to print them out yourself. The information on the website is really to cover the first 72 hours of an emergency, 'til the government gets its act together, but it might not be a bad idea to send that website address to your friends; you know, to kinda get them thinking.
Actualy our store sells washed out capre barrels used for transport. Their HDPE 2 which is the safest food grade plastic their is. I agree with you a mint kit ain't going to do much. It's meant to be the 1 in the rule of 3. I have a mylar tent/ blanket and painters plastic from dollarama in my costco cargo pants when I Goin the woods as my final straw or day kit. I won't go in the woods with someone without their own survival gear. Even the dogs have kits or I carry extra. Normal not to put others in danger by not having gear.
Anyways not worried about that; I'm worried about long term perennial systems to feed the unprepared sheeple I will have to take in shtf or worse. The rest I can handle on my own. It's minute chance but I like to be ready for anything. It's the responsible thing to do. Security being paramount in those situations. A house with lots of windows made of wood. I'm here to be prepared for anything. Call me Protector! I was referred Praxis Prepper you tube channel and watched the alien series. A funny way to talk about EMP and different ways to prep for it. What got me was the gun nut prepper got taken out fast (he had no idea he was a prepper) one lady and she got the drop on the other guy even with a trip wire system! Basically u screwed with less than 10 capable watchers long term. 5 sleep; 3 on guard and two plus the older kids working their butts off to grow/ gather food. Gathering wouldn't be safe. Firewood/ cleaning/ making defenses.
Sounds like you're preparing for War... It would take longer to deal with 10 people than just 2 or 3, but do you really think that it's required to go tactical at the onset? People aren't as organized as one might think.Protector wrote:...Basically u screwed with less than 10 capable watchers long term. 5 sleep; 3 on guard and two plus the older kids working their butts off to grow/ gather food. Gathering wouldn't be safe. Firewood/ cleaning/ making defenses.
The masses may become desperate in time, but survival in an urban area likely depends on being unnoticed rather than any show of force. If you're rural, three on guard is a bit of an overkill; don't you think? At least that's my take on it.
None you improvise, one (or more) is luxury.
What the video series Wayne. I have open line of sight in two directions so better than most. But the right and back is woods. Everyone here hunts and nobody has extra water at home. Some are ready by pioneer canning and some have nothing. How long would anyone let a child cry before taking from somebody else? Like I said it's a minute chance but I'd say most here have some worry of TEOTWAWKI in their lifetime and certainly their kids or grandkids lifetime. They say EMP Would take out 99% of folks in a year. Doubtful but I can't feed everyone for a year. Hopefully just having a system in place would deter would be thieves but one family wouldn't deter crap. I'm not knowledgeable in arms or tactics but I know a kid could get the drop on us easy as it stands. We just lost 22 chickens to something in the back yard...The main point is running and maintaining a homestead by urself. Ppl want a place to go. I SHTF or TEOTWAWKI but very few are putting the time in to enlarge/ maintain systems. This alone justifies 10ppl and 18 was normal for a homestead in the pioneer ways. Everything we do here is very much like the old days
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Big families here. Their born hunters and organized to kill moose every year without fail from 300- 1000 yards with 300mag. What's the disadvantage in having buddies to hunt/ garden/ give you a hand shtf/ Camp and have fun with? The best deterrent is numbers in all crime. That's why immigrants all move to the same place including snow birds. Safety