Wayne wrote:I wasn't speaking of a siege, but of an assault (although historically defence of a fixed position has always ended-up in failure in modern times). In a siege the occupants are well aware that a prolonged attack is underway.Entropy wrote: history shows that sieges always need more then the defenders. a police take down of unskilled people is a much different situation, just like an SAS team taking down a group of terrorists. it's all based on threat assessment.
how are they going to render a hidden IR motion sensor or the receiver useless?
how are they going to interrupt my power supply when it's in the middle of my property and off grid?
In an assault, it should be over before the occupants are fully aware of the threat, or have little time to prepare for it. Historically, the German Blitzkrieg or lightning attack proved its value. It changed warfare forever (but I'm getting off topic)...
I would not classify drug labs, motorcycle gangs and paramilitary groups as unskilled. They often employ trained personnel for security and utilize the best electronic surveillance methods available. Cost is no object and explosives/booby-traps are often implemented into the defence along with back-up power sources. They're regularly overcome by small tactical teams.
As I've previously mentioned, I agree. If however the chances are so slim, it begs the question: Why have you invested so much in fortifications "in butt-*censored* I'm a potty mouth nowhere," to protect yourself from what you feel is a low-level or non-existent threat?Entropy wrote: how many trained assault teams will be wondering around butt *censored* I'm a potty mouth no where? ...a highly trained assault team is unlikely to be any where near me.
I've been involved in over 50 actual assaults and hundreds of simulations. We haven't lost anyone but have sustained some injuries in training (broken leg in a helicopter insertion, etc.). In over 90% of the cases, well trained and equipped defenders never even got a shot off.
My point is that most defensive methods are designed to protect people and property in a powered society. Police services are available and on-line. The visibility of fortifications acts as a deterrent to the criminal element.
In a power-out SHTF situation where people are desperate and the Police are off-line, the situation is radically changed. Fortifications attract the people they were intended to deter. It's a two-edged sword. I believe the best defense is to keep a low profile.
I'm not critical of your position. You've taken the steps that you've seen fit to take. Each of us strive to do likewise. There's no right or wrong, as we each live with the choices we make. Obviously some of us live in areas that are extremely remote; while others live in or near highly populated areas. No one knows where they will ultimately find themselves, should tragedy strike.
It seems that you have an ideal situation in-that you are remote and prepared. Unfortunately, not everyone is so self-sustained, off-grid and accomplished. Many of us will have to deal with the crowds of unprepared people.
In such a scenario, bristling your property with Keep Out or Guard Dog signs (dogs provide good warning, but are otherwise useless in an armed assault), barbed wire, surveillance cameras, or solar panels will likely not result in the desired outcome. It just shines a spotlight and emphasises 'What I have is valuable and I plan on keeping it.' A line drawn in the sand...
The more visibly prepared you are to defend yourself, the higher the likelihood that you'll need to. As I've said before, the poor (or seemingly poor) are never afraid of becoming the target of robbery...
why have i invested in a security system when i don't believe i'll see high lever threats?
why do i have any preps when i don't see a real threat of massive collapse?
it's not the law that makes me keep up car insurance or house insurance it's the "what if" that makes me pay them each month.
but the best reason to have anything like this. . . is to KNOW when someone enters my property (chamberlain) and then to have video of what they do (for litigation ) in good times. if things go bad, these system reaches out.
as for sticking out? my cameras can't be seen by the road, nothing can, save part of my barn from the other side of the lake . . .. nothing sticks out in my system, no one would know anything is under protection. i have no big signs saying keep out, or dogs etc. if i was too use them, they would be very much closer to my house then. everything about my system is if you know about it, it's too late for you . . . if you are close enough to see it, i already know you are seeing it.
each house/property is different, but my property is not the biggest, or the richest, it's assets will be more valuable during a SHTF, but that's when my ability to protect them would be greatest. my system would be further from my property and there would be eyes on the area all the time. there are natural barriers that protect my area, and i've done the rest.
my biggest concern isn't mutant zombie bikers, or assault teams, it's the hungry kids down the road . . . because their father will do anything to not see his babies cry with a hungry belly. . . and i have plans for dealing with him too. . .