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Threat Assessment - Expernal / Internal

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 5:07 pm
by Wayne
Many of us are trying to develop an environment in-which we hope will sustain us should the SHTF. In doing so, we often will look at our requirements and identify our shortcomings. To address these, we may consider how other individuals could be added to our group to develop a stronger nucleus. At the onset, this seems to be prudent and a reasonable approach.

Every survival situation has to be evaluated on it's own merit. What can be hoped to be accomplished is dependent on the skill, experience, fitness and mental outlook of the individual(s) involved.

When I was younger I was an avid mountaineer. I loved to climb and was thirsty for knowledge and experience. The more my skill progressed, the more difficult I found it to move forward, Expert climbers were very particular with whom they climbed with. I became more aware of the affect of the human dynamic and how it influences a group.

I came to witness climbs that were unsuccessful solely because of differences of opinion, how people got along and questions of leadership. External obstacles could be managed, but the internal ones could be catastrophic. I developed an understanding of why thing were the way they were.

At this time, I was living in a commune. I was surprised to see that some people pulled their weight and others didn't. Rather than a feeling of contentment (make love not war) there was an edge to life that I hadn't expected. Everyone knew what was expected, but few did what they should (women mainly did the work which was an embarrassment to me).

Over the years I've taught wilderness survival in many potentially hazardous environments. Strife often occurs when people are presented with hardship that wasn't previously perceived. Sometimes shared hardship binds people together as life-long friends and at other times, you're fortunate that it's only the experience that was lost.

Regardless of teaching various programs to a variety of people of different ages, backgrounds and occupations and despite considering myself a reasonable judge of character, I've been unable to pre-determine problematic individuals. It's as if there is a invisible wall that's hit and the problem occurs.

As a Police Officer I became well acquainted with the dark-side of human nature. In day-to-day life people can be truly wonderful. When the conditions change, some will rise as heroes and others will become a danger to themselves and others.

For me, my experiences have affected my survival plan. As a result, I limit myself to members of my family and selected others that have past through the fire (so to speak) in real life situations. People that I can trust with my life and who believe that I can be trusted upon.

This is not to say that I'm not interested in cooperation with others, but introducing a unknown entity to the group for me is too risky. My family is the most precious thing in my life and any optional risk is too great. You never know how someone will react to a situation until they've been exposed to it (or something similar) in your presence. How anyone will react may affect the groups chances of survival.

These thoughts were brought to light after reading comments made by others in the 'Do you plan to be a lone wolf or part of a like minded band?' thread. Obviously everyone has their own criteria for coming to their own conclusion. How do you evaluate this?

Re: Threat Assessment - Expernal / Internal

Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2018 7:49 pm
by peppercorn
Well, while I don't know your plans, I must say they appear more ambitious than mine. I am just trying to grow sweeter carrots, refine solar power further, and look for easier ways to keep my wood stoves fueled. I guess I don't require the high standards you do? I have been gifted a well aged mountain of goat *censored* I'm a potty mouth from a neighbour so pretty much anyone who can give me a hand to get it over to my place will do....such are my standards.

I am not, and never will be leading " the charge of the light brigade", if I set my glasses down, I often cant find the things again, then there are my hands, arthritice is setting in and sometimes I go to close my left hand and a finger or two locks up, have to use my right hand to bend the fingers on the left the right way. Your odds of survival are exactaly zero, same as mine, same as everyones. Those odds are certain! Get used to it.

You and every one you know will at some point be reduced to 200 pounds of dead, hairless monkey meat, likely stinking up the place. Your odds of anything else are absolutely zero. Life is so much easier when you accept that. I just want to identify the annoying, they usually make themselves self evident, and avoid them. They are a constant threat to my well being. I just don't want to be annoyed more than necessary. I guess I aim low.....its worked for me so far.

Re: Threat Assessment - External / Internal

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 9:25 am
by Wayne
Peppercorn, thanks for your input. Yes, we all die in-time. I will however try to maintain a safe living environment for myself and my family as long as possible. It's nice to hear that you'll open your door to the masses. It's very Christian of you... Smile. Should the SHTF, don't blame yourself for not finding your glasses. They've probably been stolen by the guy who helped you move the mountain... There's likely some good news, as your 'mountain of goat *censored* I'm a potty mouth' is relatively safe... lol