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working with hides?

Post by farmgal » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:46 pm

Was not sure where to put this one, but figure it would go well with hunting..

So anyone working on hides, if so what, and are you wanting to keep hair on, take hair off? are you going with the chemical process, or are you going old fashioned, and what is your end projects to be..

I am currently working on rabbit, as well as sheep hides and I was offered a deer hide as well as taking on a good sized project in the terms of my cow hide..

Just wondering if anyone ones else does there own?


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Post by backwoodsontario » Fri Jan 11, 2013 10:59 pm

Hi Farmgal

I am doing doing a coyote hunt next weekend. I had planned on skinning out a couple just to familiarize myself with the process. I will be using the old method with the brains of the animal to cure the hide with hair on. I have never attempted this before, but would like to learn a couple of different methods for wolf and bear. I would be open to and other methods.

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Post by farmgal » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:09 pm

I have not done the brains myself, I have done the egg yolk method, I can show the process on a hide if you are interested, its pretty much the same thing, I am planning on doing a slow smoke of summac, but I am also waiting for my cousin to get back to me, he said he is a willow bark soak that worked not bad on martin (he has a trap line up in the watson lake area in the yukon, but he sends most of his hides out to be processed).
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Post by backwoodsontario » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:23 pm

I would like to see that egg yolk method. I've heard of the willow bark but willow is scarce where I'll be. If you'd like a coyote hide to try I can certainly get one too you....I hunt them all year round.

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Post by OddDuck » Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:12 am

I did hides as a kid but need some remedial training as I just did what the nice Indian lady said to do, with what she gave me. Not really interested in doing the doggy doo method ever again. I have a Jersey/Beltie steer who has an almost complete maple leaf on his side (white on black) so I will butcher him myself in order to keep the hide. Brains would be an option this time but I would like to learn the egg yolk method as well. Plenty of eggs around here.

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Post by farmgal » Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:16 am

Sounds good, I will do a sheep hide with the egg yolk method and take photos and figure out how I am doing in a way that I write out.. Right now, I am using salt/alum for curing the rabbit hides.

O, that cow hide sounds fab! Where are you at that you can't get your hides back from your butcher, mine will give me mine back, its part of the flat butcher fee and they do a good job..
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Post by farmgal » Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:18 am

by where, I just mean what province?
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Post by ranger2012 » Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:59 am

The old method is using tannin, hence "Tanning" from the inner bark of oak trees. or you can buy the tanning in bulk form. If you have ever gone by a tanning factory, you cannot mistake it for it stinks and will turn your stomach.
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Post by OddDuck » Sat Jan 12, 2013 4:10 am

farmgal wrote:Sounds good, I will do a sheep hide with the egg yolk method and take photos and figure out how I am doing in a way that I write out.. Right now, I am using salt/alum for curing the rabbit hides.

O, that cow hide sounds fab! Where are you at that you can't get your hides back from your butcher, mine will give me mine back, its part of the flat butcher fee and they do a good job..
Flying the flag now.

The butchers around here charge for everything. I had a big fight to even get my lard back without being charged for it. They keep saying the inspectors won't allow it. Total crap. I showed up on butchering day against the rules and put an end to that by catching the inspecter out in the parking lot on a smoke break, but now I cannot go to that butcher again. They all spout the inspector line about hides as well or they say they cannot skin it carefully enough so they are not comfortable with giving it back, or they won't know which one is mine blah, blah, blah. I have Belted Galloways. Pretty easy to tell which one is mine. I know they make extra money for selling the hides; they just don't want to cough them up. I even had to argue with one guy the the tail was mine. I know what ox tail sells for. The problem is that there are so few left that they don't have competition any more.

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Post by farmgal » Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:27 pm

Wow, makes me even more grateful to my local family run butcher, to date they have been excellent, I ask for and get pretty much everything I legally can back from them, I ask for all the regular cuts, all the extra european cuts and everything else allowed (as I have dogs) and they have been pretty much excellent.

Clearly I do get more when I self butcher and that works fine for our own home use but as I also want to do farm gate sales, I need to have that stamp and formal process done.
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